Mark Tramontin: Dad was going to be taken -- he had the support of the VEA and the NEA which is the National Education Association and the Virginia Education Association -- and they were supporting him. I forget who was going to take him -- file a lawsuit against him. Anyway, he knew it was coming.
Phyllis Leffler: There was a lawsuit against him personally?
Mark Tramontin: Yeah. And I have no other explanation on where that ended up going, but I do remember this -- he was supposed to get served papers, and every year, we always did one trip to my grandparents who lived in Iron Mountain, Michigan. And my dad would drive -- in fact, he would drive from here to Chicago in one day -- or here to Milwaukee in one day -- and then we’d go up to Iron Mountain. And he knew this subpoena was coming, and he was afraid it was going to get served the next morning -- do you remember this?
Nancy Tramontin: Yeah, absolutely.
Mark Tramontin: So we all took baths at three o’clock in the morning, mom packed a lunch and everything, so we could get out of the town in the dark before the subpoena could be served.
Nancy Tramontin: And I remember it as a longer period of time than that -- that we weren’t like allowed to go outside of the house --
Mark Tramontin: No, we weren’t.
Nancy Tramontin: -- we had to just hide out. Dad, I think, was probably still going to work, but for at least a couple of days, we were all kind of hiding out. And then, like Mark said, we got in the car and just drove up to Iron Mountain. And I don’t know if that affidavit was ever served or not, but --
Mark Tramontin: I don’t remember if it was either.